Operator
女士们、先生们,感谢各位的耐心等待,欢迎参加陌陌公司2021年第一季度财报电话会议。[接线员提示]请注意,本次会议今天将被录音。现在我将会议交给今天的第一位发言人,彭女士。谢谢。请开始,女士。
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the First Quarter of 2021 Momo Incorporated Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded today. And I would like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Ms. Cathy Peng. Thank you. Please go ahead, ma’am.
Cathy Peng
谢谢接线员。大家好,感谢各位今天参加陌陌2021年第一季度财报电话会议。公司业绩已于今天早些时候发布,可在公司投资者关系网站上查阅。今天代表陌陌参加电话会议的有公司首席执行官王力先生和公司首席财务官张思川先生。他们将讨论公司的业务运营、亮点以及财务状况和业绩指引。在随后的问答环节中,他们将回答各位的问题。在开始之前,我想提醒各位,本次电话会议可能包含根据1995年《私人证券诉讼改革法案》安全港条款所作的前瞻性陈述。这些陈述基于管理层当前的预期以及当前的市场和运营状况,涉及已知或未知的风险、不确定性和其他因素,所有这些都难以预测,且许多超出公司的控制范围,可能导致公司的实际业绩、表现或成就与前瞻性陈述中的内容存在重大差异。有关这些及其他风险、不确定性和因素的更多信息包含在公司向美国证券交易委员会提交的文件中。除非法律要求,公司不承担因新信息、未来事件或其他原因而更新任何前瞻性陈述的义务。现在我将电话交给王先生。我将为他翻译。王先生,请。
Cathy Peng
Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone and thank you for joining us today for Momo’s first quarter 2021 earnings conference call. The company’s results were released earlier today and are available on the company’s IR website. On the call today from Momo are Mr. Wang Li, CEO of the company and Mr. Jonathan Zhang, CFO of the company. They will discuss the company’s business operations and highlights as well as the financials and guidance. They will all be available to answer your questions during the Q&A session that follows. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that the call may contain forward-looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on management’s current expectations and current market and operating conditions and relate to events that involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company’s control, which may cause the company’s actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Further information regarding these and other risks, uncertainties and factors is included in the company’s filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The company does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise except as required under law. I will now pass the call over to Mr. Wang. I will translate for him. Mr. Wang, please.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
Good morning and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining our conference call today. Q1 was a good quarter and a decent start to the year 2021. On our last earnings call, I outlined our strategic priorities for the year. In Q1, both Momo and Tantan teams have stepped up our efforts to drive towards the strategic goals. On the call today, I will walk you through the key operating and financial results for the quarter and then I am going to give you an update on the progresses that we have made against the company’s priorities. First of all, a brief overview of the financial performance. For the first quarter 2021, total revenue was CNY3.47 billion, down 3% year-over-year due to the decrease in live streaming revenue, which was further attributable to the structural reform we undertook in Q3 last year. However, I am happy to see that the reform has started bearing fruit, both in terms of the user metrics and in terms of revenue trajectory. That, coupled with accelerated growth in the VAS business in Q1, has significantly narrowed down the YoY decrease rate from the previous quarter. At the same time, the revenue mix continued to diversify into a more long tail and stable structure, with VAS reaching 74% the size of live streaming in Q1. Adjusted net income for the quarter was CNY634 million, representing an 18% profit margin. Excluding content’s net loss, adjusted net income for the core Momo was CNY676 million, or a 23% profit margin. Tantan’s total revenue came in CNY568 million for the first quarter, up 49% year-over-year. Adjusted net loss from Tantan was CNY42.04 million for the quarter compared to CNY103.2 million for the year ago period. Now, a deeper dive into the quarter. First, the growth of our community, the core Momo had 115.3 million monthly actives for the first quarter of 2021, up 7% year-on-year and growing against seasonality with a 1.5 million net addition from Q4 last year. I am proud to say that despite the negative seasonality in Q1, not only did MAU reach a record high, but also some of the most important metrics reflecting core Momo social efficiency grew meaningfully. Among them, the number of interactions around nearby content, the number of average daily two-way interactions as well as the number of one-to-one messages, have all reached their peak since the year 2017. The optimization of user redirection model drove 30 days retention ratio for resurrected users to improve 4 percentage points versus Q1 last year, which enabled the overall retention ratio to remain stable at a high level despite the increase of channel investments. The positive trajectory that we have been seeing on the core Momo, both in terms of traffic and in terms of grossing, can be attributable to three factors: number one, the progresses that we made in improving the basic social experiences last year; number two, the right approaches that we adopted on the channel marketing side, both during and after Chinese New Year holiday; and number three, the fruits that came out of the structural reform in the second half of last year. Now, a number of paying users for the quarter was 9.1 million, representing a 100,000 net addition from a quarter ago. The number of paying users has grown against the negative seasonality in Q1 as a result of the robust recovery trend in MAU post lunar year holiday. Now, turning to Tantan’s user trends and related metrics. As mentioned on our last earnings call, Tantan’s DAU has been under pressure since late Q3 last year due to intensive competition of channel resources as well as the low efficiency in Tantan’s own user acquisition efforts. Since November last year, with lower content marketing spend and shifted the efforts towards fixing some of the technical problems in the user acquisition system in order to more effectively seize the marketing window post Chinese New Year. As a result of the decrease in marketing spend, the December week user trend continued through January and hit the lowest point in early February. The user data started picking up after we stepped up our marketing efforts when channel competition became milder towards mid-Feb. Furthermore, as a result of these preliminary improvements in the marketing approach, we were able to see some initial meaningful progresses in the user data. For example, the new, more female-oriented ad materials have substantially improved the general ratio in the newly acquired users. The retention ratio has also seen meaningful improvement. Content DAU also gradually ramped from the lowest point in mid-February and eventually delivered a slightly higher average DAU in March than in December 2020. More importantly, we managed to achieve that while further lowering the quarterly marketing spend from Q4. This round of test campaign shows that even some initial adjustments in the marketing approach could make some meaningful changes, both in terms of quality of user growth and in terms of cost efficiency. This has confirmed our belief that Tantan has plenty of headroom to grow its user base while making better sense of ROI. The challenges that we encountered in the second half of last year and more broadly across the past 2 years is very much fixable. Tantan’s paying user count came in 3.5 million end of Q1 2020, down from 3.8 million last quarter. The 300,000 net decrease was due to the combination of three factors: number one, the weak DAU performance in January and February; number two, the increase in the female percentage in the new users having a negative impact on paying conversion as women are much less likely to pay for value-added services in comparison with men; number three, the lingering impact of the rollout of SCIT package, which had a price lifting effect and has a negative impact on the number of paying users. Before I start the operational and business review of the company, I would like to reiterate the strategic priorities that I set for my teams at the beginning of the year. On the core Momo side, I have three goals for the team: number one, further grow the core user base with limited marketing budget and improve the ROI versus last year; number two, bring the business back on to growth track; and number three, continue to enrich our product portfolio and push the boundaries beyond Momo and Tantan. On the Tantan side, the single most important goal for the year is to deliver solid user growth by substantially improving the marketing efficiency as well as the coordinating experience. Next, I am going to take you through what we have done in the past quarter regarding each of the priorities. First, I’d like to review the progresses we made in better serving the Momo community and drive user growth. One of the most important goals on the product side is to keep identifying the underserved user demand and figure out ways to effectively address them. One obvious thing that we can do on that front is to take better care of female user social preferences. We have long been seeing social desire from female users on Momo. However, women’s social preferences can be quite different from that of men. Women tend to have stronger inclination to express their feelings. Also, it takes longer for them to open up to strangers and get acquainted with others, especially those of opposite sex. The product and services we offered in the past were clearly more male user-friendly. Therefore, there was a mismatch between what the female users needed and what we empower them with. In Q1, we started some new product experiments to bridge that gap. We test launched an audio social experience called [indiscernible] or [Foreign Language] in Chinese and a brand new news feed experience called the mini-verse, which allows users to post and interact with content without releasing their profile information. Both of these two product experiments aim at encouraging the users to share their relationship stories and express their feelings, which caters to the part of user mentality that falls on the other side of the spectrum against what is commonly seen on Momo. Our objective here is to improve female users’ engagement and retention by better serving them with what we didn’t do well before. If we can successfully do that, we can improve the engagement of the entire platform as well. This is a very important direction for our product team to explore this year. Next, let me review the progresses that we have made against our priority of bringing the cash cow business back on to the growth track. Firstly, on live broadcasting, our objective for live broadcasting this year is to deliver a gradual and steady improvement at both revenue and gross profit level. Here, I would like to underscore gross profit, because one commonly seen the steps in managing live streaming business is to drive top line growth at the expense of gross profit and long-term health of the ecosystem. This year, we will be sticking to a more sustainable growth model by focusing on fostering the mid to long-tail content ecosystem and avoid applying strong revenue-oriented operational efforts, especially those aim at lifting RP2 for speedy recovery, which may cause centralization at the very top of the pyramid. One imperative for healthy content ecosystem is to have a vibrant content supply system. This was particularly critical after taking a big step last year. At Q4, with the Golden broadcaster contract renewal project, we have successfully locked down the big majority of the existing high-grossing broadcasters. In February, we moved on to addressing another issue that we had on the supply end, new talent recruitment and growth. Having a constant flow of high-quality new talent and the right mechanism to make sure they can surface from the bottom to the top is important for maintaining a good metabolic system. As a social platform, this used to be one of our strong areas. However, during the past 2 years, Momo had not provided sufficient support and motivation to this vital part of the supply system. To address this issue, we made another adjustment to our incentive program to make it more appealing to the newcomers. These two rounds of adjustments of the incentive program were very well received by the new broadcasters and agencies. This can be proven by the outperformance of the year end competition as well as better than expected trajectory post the Chinese New Year holiday. I believe our current program provides adequate incentives and motivation to all kinds of broadcasters that we consider important through our content ecosystem. As expected on our last call, the two rounds of adjustments collectively had a 2.4% drag on the GP margin. We believe payout ratio should remain stable from Q1 onwards. I am glad that our team was able to put together a well-rounded incentive program at a fairly manageable cost level. Besides more effective financial incentive, as another part of our effort to better support the entry level talent, we made adjustments to our algorithm to divert more traffic to the mid to long-tail. Moreover, since the beginning of this year, we have also been holding monthly [indiscernible], where we sit down with different kinds of agencies and broadcasters, making sure their needs, challenges and suggestions are heard by the management. Due to these concerted efforts to revive the content ecosystem, in Q1, we were able to see meaningful improvement in some of the important metrics that we use to gauge the healthiness of the ecosystem. These metrics include a number of in-channel DAUs, retention ratio and the number of average daily paying user. As the overall company ecosystem continues to recover, the spending has also been showing steady and gradual improvement. So far into the second quarter, the non-event days daily grossing has fully come back from the trough around Chinese New Year and is now back to December’s level. It sets a good foundation for the spending to continue to improve as the content ecosystem does in the second half of the year. Now, turning to VAS, value-added services, has been a real outperformer in Q1, growing against seasonality at 42% year-over-year, a significant acceleration from last year. Among various experiences within VAS, chat room was the biggest growth contributor for the quarter. In comparison with other audio and video-based social entertainment experiences, chat room has a much larger user base and the paying user structure is also more long tail-driven. Throughout last year, the team has been operating this business at a controlled pace and mainly focusing on introducing innovative products that drives organic growth. This will continue to be the way we grow this business this year. Last Q4, we introduced [Foreign Language], which means themed seasonal gifts. It has proven to be a very effective – it has proven to be very effective in terms of driving revenue and engagement. In Q1, we reinvented it for Chinese New Year and Valentine’s Day, which enabled chat room to deliver an exceptional growth for the quarter. We made this gift feature available in the interest group as well, which was also well received by the users there. In addition to the boost that we got from the themed seasonal gifts, the other thing that started to gain traction in Q1 was the matchmaking experience or [Foreign Language] in Chinese. Matchmaking is a moderated video dating experience. It is particularly popular among lower tier city users. It started gaining traction in terms of retention and product experience in the second half of last year. Meanwhile, its revenue also began to ramp up steadily. The growth trend continued into Q1 and we expect it to become a meaningful revenue contributor heading into the second half. Now, quickly on the new endeavors, both Hertz and Duidui continued to make progresses against our target, both in terms of user retention and user scale. Their revenues have been growing in line with user growth. We are clearly on track to reach ROI 2, which means generating enough revenue to cover both revenue sharing cost and marketing expenses. Our goal is to hit ROI 2 target for both Hertz and Duidui in the coming few months. If we can fulfill that target, we then have plan to push the marketing button more aggressively in the second half of the year. As said on our last earnings call, this year our main focus will remain on product and user experience. That said, we do expect their revenue to trend up and contribute further into the VAS business line as we head deeper into the year. To put things in a nutshell for the core business, live streaming business, after a very bumpy journey last year, is finally on a steady improving trend. That, coupled with the growth opportunities we have in VAS, give us the confidence that the core Momo will continue to be a very productive and evolving cash cow business. This will leave us ample room to invest in new endeavors beyond Momo and Tantan in order to build longer term drivers. Now, turning to Tantan, before I get into the business and strategies at Tantan, I’d like to talk about a major change for the Tantan team. In April, Tantan’s Founder and CEO Wang Yu, as well as COO, Pan Ying stepped down from their respective positions. They are no longer involved in Tantan’s daily execution. As many of you know, Tantan encountered many challenges in the past couple of years. Mr. Wang and I have – have a consensus view that the biggest priority for Tantan is to make Tantan’s product and marketing efforts more effective and execution more efficient so that we can grab the great growth opportunities that we’re seeing. However, in terms of what changes we need to – we need in order to move things forward more effectively, Mr. Wang and I had some major differences that are difficult to reconcile. Mr. Wang chose to respect my opinion and decided this is the time that Tantan needs a new leadership. I’m now the acting CEO of Tantan and personally leading Tantan’s reforms, which is happening now as we speak. Going forward, Momo and Tantan teams will work closely together to move faster on the deeper level of collaboration. Wang Yu and Pan Ying have been valuable partners to our company. I’d like to take this opportunity to thank them for their dedication and contribution to Tantan. On behalf of both Momo and Tantan teams, I wish them the very best in pursuing their new endeavors. Before I talk about the progresses we’ve made against our strategic goal, let me quickly review Tantan’s financial performance. Total revenue for the first quarter was RMB568 million, up 49% year-on-year. The growth was driven by the increase in ARPPU, which was largely contributed by the live streaming service and, to a lesser degree, user shift toward higher-priced membership services. On a sequential basis, revenue had strong seasonality this year due to the live streaming service. The big majority of Tantan’s live streaming revenue comes from long tail broadcasters who are difficult to manage. Total broadcasting time and the number of active channels declined significantly during the winter holiday period, causing a deep dive in live streaming revenue and subsequent slow recovery. As a result, live streaming revenue dropped 38% sequentially to RMB251 million. VAS revenue decreased 6% from Q4 last year to RMB316 million. The sequential decrease was due to the weak user trend in January and February as well as the higher female ratio in the newly acquired users. Now turning to the most important part of my speech today, Tantan’s strategic priorities for the year and our plan on how to drive user growth more effectively and unleash the full potential of Tantan going forward. We have always believed that Tantan has the potential to grow bigger than where Momo is today. This view is supported by the secular trends that we’re seeing in China’s dating space as well as the fact that Tantan is the most committed as well as the most effective product in connecting people for romantic purposes and off-line relationship conversions. The reason why Tantan has not been growing as fast as they should was not because the opportunities are not there or somebody else is stronger than we are, but because there are important areas where we need to improve. For quite a long period of time in the past, our marketing efforts have not been – have been ineffective and the product experience has a lot of room for improvement as well. The single large important goal for Tantan this year is to make sure that we deliver solid user growth by addressing the above-mentioned issues. From April until now, my job has been putting together the right team to lead these efforts. I moved some of my best people from Momo on to this project so that we can hit the ground running. We spent the past 2 months combing through the key areas of focus and now have a plan to achieve our goal for this year. Now let me walk you through the key steps of this plan. First, we need to significantly improve Tantan’s marketing efficiency. On that front, I’m afraid we have not been doing the right things during the past 2 years. After we took over in April, we’ve conducted a comprehensive review of Tantan’s marketing approaches. The review, we confirmed our belief that Tantan should have ample room for user growth by reforming its user acquisition system. We have a standard playbook and Momo for the reform. And thus, we view it as a low-hanging fruit that we can pick. Our job in Q1 would include building up a fully functioning marketing team, resetting and restarting the data management system and rising a new set of user acquisition programs, including targeting strategy and ad materials to completely replace the old ones. The number of DAU were under some pressure in April and May, while we decreased the marketing spend in order to focus on rebuilding the team and reworking the system. We expect the user trend to start picking up again as the new system gains traction moving into Q1. Another thing on the marketing side that we believe can contribute to the overall user growth is brand advertising. We hardly made any branding efforts in the past 3 to 4 years. However, Tantan, as a relatively younger brand, its brand awareness is far from the level where it needs to be. There are many people who are not using Tantan because they have not heard of us before or yet to be fully aware of the core value that Tantan can provide or have some misconception about Tantan’s brand and services. There is a huge opportunity for us to drive user awareness and enhance brand equity if we can clearly articulate the core value of Tantan to those who may need our service. We will invest more into branding when opportunity arises. It should be the right timing after we complete our next major product upgrade. The second growth driver is product innovation. We need to make Tantan’s product experience more appealing. While Tantan is undoubtedly the most dedicated and effective dating app in China, we do have many opportunities to optimize so that we can do better in connecting the users for romantic purpose. On the front end, we need to make the users interface more succinct and coordinating experience more prominent. On the back end, we need to make the swipe and match system more effective. Tantan is sitting on a gold mine of user data that we can mine and leverage to make more relevant recommendations. This is where technology and big data mining can play very important roles. We have not been very effective in doing that during the past 3 to 4 years. We need to see real efforts made and concrete changes on that front as well. The goal is to improve user experience in a core swipe and match mechanism through more effective recommendations. We need users to be able to feel these changes when they swipe through the cards and interact with matches. While continuing to strengthen our dating-related product offering, we are also going to keep exploring more diversified features and services to make the Tantan experience better fit into the Asian dating culture. This in turn will further improve user engagement and retention which will translate into user growth. The third pillar of our Tantan plan is to drive more synergies between Momo and Tantan. While Tantan will continue to maintain an independent organizational and operational structure, I believe there are many areas where Tantan and Momo can work together and drive significant synergies. This is especially true in the areas of marketing, technology and data collaboration. This is an area where we will definitely move faster in the future. These are the things I’d like to cover on this call. Now let me pass the call over to Mr. Jonathan Zhang for financial Review. Jon, please.
Jonathan Zhang
谢谢。大家好。感谢各位今天参加我们的电话会议。现在让我简要回顾一下财务情况。2021年第一季度总收入为人民币34.7亿元,同比下降3%或环比下降9%,超过了我们收入指引的高端。与去年第四季度相比,同比降幅显著收窄,这得益于直播业务结构性改革的成果显现以及核心陌陌增值服务的加速增长。归属于陌陌的非美国通用会计准则净利润为人民币6.337亿元,而2020年同期为人民币7.363亿元,同比下降14%。 现在来看本季度的关键收入项目。首先,直播业务方面,2021年第一季度直播业务总收入为人民币19.6亿元,同比下降16%,环比也下降16%。核心陌陌直播收入第一季度总计人民币17.1亿元,同比下降26%,环比下降11%,而内容直播收入为人民币2.51亿元,环比下降38%。核心业务同比下降是由于我们自去年8月以来一直在进行的结构性改革。陌陌和探探的环比下降是由于春节的负面季节性影响。 接下来看增值服务。增值服务收入达到人民币14.6亿元,同比增长24%,环比增长4%。王力已经回顾了探探的收入表现,所以我将重点关注核心陌陌。不包括探探人民币3.16亿元收入,2021年第一季度增值服务收入达到人民币11.4亿元,同比增长42%,环比增长7%。陌陌核心增值服务的稳健表现主要得益于团队对产品创新的关注和有效的运营努力。基于音频和视频的社交娱乐体验继续保持强劲增长势头,是核心陌陌增值服务的最大收入驱动力。此外,我们的新业务开始获得关注,并在第一季度为增值服务线贡献了增量收入。 让我简要回顾一下本季度的成本和费用项目。2021年第一季度的非美国通用会计准则收入成本为人民币19.2亿元,而去年同期为人民币18.5亿元。非美国通用会计准则收入成本占总收入的百分比为55.2%,较2020年第一季度的51.5%有所增加。本季度的非美国通用会计准则毛利率同比下降3.7%。下降归因于以下因素:第一,核心陌陌直播业务的支付比率较高;第二,探探直播业务规模扩大导致毛利率较低;第三,核心陌陌增值服务业务的支付比率较高,这是由于音频/视频社交娱乐业务的强劲增长,其中很大一部分涉及第三方专业主持人;最后,某些固定性质的成本,如人员成本,对毛利率产生了负面影响,因为总收入下降,这些项目占总净收入的百分比更高。 环比来看,非美国通用会计准则毛利率较去年第四季度下降了2个百分点,这落在我们最初预期的乐观区间。正如我们上次电话会议提到的,我们预计新的主播导向激励计划调整将从第一季度开始对毛利率产生2到3个百分点的负面影响。我很高兴团队能够制定出一个全面的激励计划,该计划受到新主播和机构的欢迎,同时成功将成本结构控制在相当合理的水平。我们相信当前的激励计划为我们认为对维持充满活力的生态系统至关重要的各类主播提供了足够的动力。我们预计支付比率将从第一季度开始保持稳定水平。 第一季度的非美国通用会计准则研发费用为人民币2.441亿元,而去年同期为人民币2.17亿元,分别占总净收入的7%和6%。环比来看,非美国通用会计准则研发费用较去年第四季度的人民币4.865亿元下降了15%,这是由于年底计提的年度奖金费用。截至本季度末,我们共有2,333名员工,其中828名来自探探。研发人员占集团总员工的比例为57%,而去年第一季度为56%。 第一季度的非美国通用会计准则销售和营销费用为人民币5.798亿元,占总收入的16.7%,而去年同期为人民币6.453亿元,占总收入的18%。销售和营销费用在人民币金额和占总收入百分比方面的同比下降,主要是由于核心陌陌支出减少,因为我们推迟了直播年终盛典活动作为对疫情的预防措施,以及探探在本季度上半段减少了用户获取投资,以避免渠道竞争,同时专注于修复其用户获取系统中的问题。 2021年第一季度的非美国通用会计准则一般及行政费用为人民币9,420万元,而去年同期为人民币1.055亿元,分别占总净收入的2.7%和2.9%。非美国通用会计准则营业利润为人民币6.612亿元,较2020年第一季度下降17%,第一季度非美国通用会计准则营业利润率为19.1%,较去年同期下降3.2%。非美国通用会计准则运营费用占总收入的百分比为26.5%,较2020年第一季度的26.9%略有下降。 现在简要谈谈所得税费用。第一季度,公司收到了退税,这是由于与往年相关的额外费用扣除所致。不考虑一次性退税,我们估计第一季度的非美国通用会计准则有效税率约为19%。 现在转向资产负债表和现金流项目。截至2021年3月31日,陌陌的现金、现金等价物、短期存款、长期存款和限制性现金总计人民币169.6亿元,而截至2020年12月31日为人民币164.8亿元。2021年第一季度的经营活动产生的净现金为人民币5.02亿元,而去年同期为人民币5.43亿元。 最后,关于业务展望,我们预计第二季度收入将在人民币36亿元至37亿元之间,同比下降6.9%至4.3%,但环比增长3.7%至6.6%。对于2021年第二季度,环比来看,我们预计核心陌陌的总收入将实现高个位数百分比增长。探探的总收入预计将下降约10%,原因如下:第一,付费用户减少,特别是在4月和5月,这是由于管理过渡期间的暂时性中断导致日活跃用户表现疲软;第二,性别比例变化,近期新用户中女性比例的增加对付费转化产生了不利影响,因为女性比男性更不可能为增值服务付费;第三,剥离2个早期业务,这将略微影响付费用户数量和总收入,这些业务在剥离时处于亏损状态,与探探的总收入相比产生的收入微不足道。我们将在第二季度确认这些业务1个月的收入,因为过渡在5月初完成。剥离将在第三季度对总收入产生完整季度的影响。请注意,此预测代表公司当前对市场和运营状况的初步看法,可能会发生变化。 另一件值得提及的事情是,截至目前,我们已经连续第三年支付了特别现金股息。为了补充消耗的美元资金,公司在第二季度从我们在中国的WFOE和离岸实体总共汇回了人民币13亿元。根据中国相关税法,公司已向中国税务机关支付了10%或人民币1.3亿元的预提税。这些预提税支付将计入公司2021年第二季度的所得税费用。 这结束了我们今天讨论的准备部分。接下来,让我把电话交还给Cathy开始问答环节。Cathy,请。
Jonathan Zhang
Thank you. Hi, everyone. Thank you for joining our conference call today. Now let me briefly take you through the financial review. Total revenue for the first quarter 2021 was RMB3.47 billion, down 3% year-on-year or 9% quarter-on-quarter, exceeding the high end of our revenue guidance. The year-on-year decrease was significantly narrowed compared to Q4 last year, thanks to the combination of fruits coming out of the structural reform in live streaming business as well as accelerated growth in the core Momo VAS. Non-GAAP net income attributable to Momo was RMB633.7 million compared to RMB736.3 million from the same period 2020 or a 14% decrease year-over-year. Looking into the key revenue items for the quarter. Firstly, on live broadcasting, total revenue for live broadcasting business for the first quarter 2021 was RMB1.96 billion, down 16%, both from the same period last year and from last quarter. Core Momo live broadcasting revenue totaled RMB1.71 billion for the first quarter, down 26% from the same period last year and 11% from last quarter, while content live broadcasting revenue amounted RMB251 million, down 38% from previous quarter. The year-over-year decrease for core was due to the structural reform that we have been undertaking since August last year. The sequential decrease for both Momo and Tantan was due to the Chinese New Year negative seasonality. Moving on to VAS. Revenue from value-added services reached RMB1.46 billion, up 24% year-on-year or – and 4% quarter-on-quarter. Wang Li has reviewed Tantan’s revenue performance, so I will focus on core Momo. Revenue from VAS, excluding RMB316 million from Tantan reached RMB1.14 billion in the first quarter 2021, a 42% increase year-on-year and 7% increase sequentially. The solid performance of Momo’s core VAS business was primarily driven by the team’s focus on product innovation and effective operational efforts. Audio and video-based social entertainment experience continued to generate strong growth momentum and was the biggest revenue driver for the core Momo VAS. In addition, our new endeavors started gaining traction and contributed incremental revenue to the VAS line in Q1. Let me briefly review the cost and expenses items for the quarter. Our non-GAAP cost revenue for the first quarter of 2021 was RMB1.92 billion compared to RMB1.85 billion for the same period last year. Non-GAAP cost of revenue as a percentage of total revenue was 55.2%, an increase from 51.5% from Q1 2020. Non-GAAP gross profit margin for the quarter was down 3.7% from a year ago. The decrease was attributed to the following factors: number one, higher payout ratio from core Momo live broadcasting business; lower gross margin for Tantan at its live broadcasting business has become sizable; higher payout ratio from core Momo VAS business due to the robust growth coming from the audio/video-based social entertainment business, a big part of which involved third-party professional moderators; and lastly, certain fixed nature costs, such as headcount, impacted gross margin negatively as total revenue declined and these items represent a higher percentage of total net revenue. On a sequential basis, the non-GAAP gross margin was down 2 percentage points compared to Q4 last year, which fell into the optimistic end of our original expectation. As mentioned on our last call, we had expected the new broadcaster-oriented incentive program adjustments to have 2 to 3 percentage adverse impact on gross margin from Q1 onwards. I’m glad that the team was able to put together a well-rounded incentive program that is well received by the new broadcasters and agencies, at the same time, managed to control the cost structure at a fairly reasonable level. We believe the current incentive program provides sufficient motivation to all kinds of broadcasters that we deem important to maintain a vibrant ecosystem. We expect the payout ratio to maintain stable level from Q1 onwards. Non-GAAP R&D expenses for the first quarter was RMB244.1 million compared to RMB217 million for the same period last year, representing 7% and 6% of total net revenue, respectively. On a sequential basis, non-GAAP R&D expenses decreased 15% from RMB486.5 million in Q4 last year due to the year-end bonus expenses accrued at the year-end. We ended the quarter with 2,333 total employees, of which 828 are from Tantan. R&D personnel, as a percentage of total employees for the group, was 57% compared to 56% in Q1 last year. Non-GAAP sales and marketing expenses for the first quarter was RMB579.8 million or 16.7% of total revenue compared to RMB645.3 million or 18% of total revenue for the same period last year. The year-over-year decrease in sales and marketing expenses, both in terms of RMB amount and in terms of as a percentage of total revenue was primarily due to less spending from core Momo as we postponed our live streaming year end gala event as a precaution or precautions against the pandemic and lower user acquisition investment from Tantan in the first half of the quarter to avoid channel competition while focusing on fixing the broken pieces in its user acquisition system. Non-GAAP G&A expenses was RMB94.2 million for the first quarter 2021 compared to RMB105.5 million for the same quarter last year, representing 2.7% and 2.9% of total net revenue, respectively. Non-GAAP operating income was RMB661.2 million, a decrease of 17% from Q1 2020, representing 19.1% non-GAAP operating margin for the first quarter, down 3.2% from the same period last year. Non-GAAP OpEx as a percentage of total revenue was 26.5%, a slight decrease from 26.9% from Q1 2020. Now briefly on income tax expenses. For Q1, the company received a tax refund, which was resulted from additional expense deduction related to previous years. Without one-off refund, our estimated non-GAAP effective tax rate was around 19% for the first quarter. Now, turning to the balance sheet and cash flow items. As of March 31, 2021, Momo’s cash, cash equivalents, short-term deposit, long-term deposit and restricted cash totaled RMB16.96 billion compared to RMB16.48 billion as of December 31, 2020. Net cash provided by operating activities in the first quarter 2021 was RMB502 million compared to RMB543 million in the same quarter last year. Lastly, on the business outlook, we estimated our second quarter revenue to come in the range from RMB3.6 billion to RMB3.7 billion, representing a decrease of 6.9% to 4.3% year-on-year, but an increase of 3.7% to 6.6% quarter-over-quarter. For Q2 2021, on a sequential basis, we expected the total revenue from core Momo to increase in the high-single percent. The total revenue from Tantan is expected to decrease around 10% due to the following factors; number one, the decrease in paying users, especially in April and May due to the weak DAU performance caused by temporary disruption during the management transition period. Number two, changes in gender ratio, the increase in female percentage in the new user acquired in recent periods adversely impacted paying conversion as women are much less likely to pay for value-added services in comparison with men. Number three, the spin-off of 2 early stage businesses, which will have a slight negative impact on the number of paying users as well as total revenue, the business involved or loss-making at the point of spin-off and generated immaterial revenues in comparison with Tantan’s total revenue. We will recognize 1 month revenue from these businesses in Q2 as the transition was completed in early May. The spin-off will have a full quarter impact on the top line in Q3. Please be mindful that this forecast represents the company’s current preliminary view on the market and operational conditions, which are subject to changes. The other thing worth mentioning here is that up to this moment, we have paid a special cash dividend for the third year in a row. To replenish our U.S. dollar funding consumed, the company had repatriated RMB1.3 billion in total from our WFOE in China, our offshore entity in the second quarter. In accordance with the respective taxation law in China, the company has paid 10% or RMB130 million withholding tax to the Chinese tax authorities. The tax – the withholding tax payments will be recorded as income tax expense for the company’s second quarter 2021. That concluded our prepared portion of today’s discussion. With that, let me turn the call back to Cathy to start Q&A. Cathy, please.
Cathy Peng
是的。简单提醒一下,对于会说中文的朋友,能否请先用中文提问,然后自己用英文翻译一遍,同时请将问题数量限制在两个以内。接线员,请准备接听问题。
Cathy Peng
Yes. Just a quick reminder, for those who can speak Chinese, can you please ask the question in Chinese first followed by English translation by yourself and also if you can limit the number of questions to two. And operator, ready for questions.
Operator
[接线员指示] 第一个问题来自杰富瑞的Thomas Chong。您的线路已接通,请提问。
Operator
[Operator Instructions] First question comes from the line of Thomas Chong of Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Thomas Chong
[外语] 我有两个问题。第一个是关于探探的。管理层能否分享在管理层变动后,我们下半年的用户和收入趋势策略?此外,如果探探今年专注于用户增长,我们应该如何看待销售和营销费用的趋势,以及我们对探探2021年盈利能力的看法。我的第二个问题是关于核心陌陌的。管理层能否评论下半年直播业务的前景?谢谢。
Thomas Chong
[Foreign Language] I have two questions. The first one is about Tantan. Can management share about our strategies on the user and the revenue trend in the second half after the management change? In addition, if Tantan focus on user growth this year, how we should think about the trend in sales and marketing expenses as well as our thoughts on Tantan profitability in 2021. My second question is about core Momo. can management comment about the live streaming outlook in the second half? Thank you.
Wang Li
[外语]
Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
好的。我先翻译第一个问题。我们全面接管探探的用户获取工作大约一个月了。在这个过程中,我们发现了许多需要修复的漏洞。这实际上让我们对探探的用户增长前景充满信心,因为任何过去的问题,如果用正确的方法解决,都可以转化为未来的机会。在我们发现的问题中,很多实际上是技术错误,修复起来并不困难。所以,我们的计划是利用接下来的2到3个月时间把所有问题都解决掉。仅此一项就应该能够带来相当可观的新注册用户增长,并改善约会生态系统。我在这里的目标是看到用户基础有显著增长。目前,我们的目标增长率在20%到35%之间。更重要的是,我们还需要看到新用户质量有实质性改善。例如,我们显然需要更多年轻用户,也需要新用户的性别比例更加平衡。
Cathy Peng
Okay. Let me translate the first one first. We have fully taken over Tantan’s user acquisition effort for about a month. During that process, we have identified many broken windows that we need to fix. That actually has given us a lot of confidence in the user growth prospects of Tantan because any past problems, if addressed with the right approaches, could be turned into future opportunities. And among the problems that we have identified, many of them are actually technical errors that are not difficult to fix. So, our plan is to use the coming couple, 2 months to 3 months’ time to get all the problems fixed. Doing that alone should be able to bring in pretty considerable increase in the new registrations as well as improvement to the dating ecosystem. The goal that I have here is to see meaningful increase in the user base. Currently, we are targeting a range between 20% to 35% growth. And more importantly, we also need to see a substantial improvement in the quality of new users that we acquire. For example, we obviously need more younger users and we also need a more balanced gender ratio in the new users.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
关于用户方面的第二点是,当我们准备好后,我们将开始披露探探的用户数据。因为目前我看到一些第三方数据监测平台对探探的用户规模存在相当严重的低估。我知道你们很多人依赖这些第三方数据来评估探探的用户表现。我认为我们需要为投资者提供更可靠、更准确的数据。所以,计划是在我们拥有功能齐全的数据团队,并完成后端数据系统的整合后,我们将开始准备披露工作。我认为投资者可以期待在今年晚些时候看到探探自行披露的用户数据。
Cathy Peng
The second point on the user front is that when we get ready, we are going to start disclosing Tantan’s user data. Because right now, I am seeing pretty significant underestimate of Tantan’s user scale by some of the third-party data monitoring platform. I know a lot of you guys are relying on these third-party to gauge Tantan’s user performance. I think we need to give investors more reliable and accurate data to do so. So, the plan is that after we have a fully functional data team and finishing coming through and integrating the back-end data system, we are going to start getting prepared for the disclosure. I think investors can expect to have Tantan’s self-disclose user data some time later this year.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
在收入方面,以下是一些要点,供您对下半年形成初步预期。第一点是第二季度的转型确实在用户获取方面造成了一些暂时性干扰,导致新用户数量下降,特别是在4月和5月。这将对收入产生一定的负面影响。但随着下半年用户数量开始回升,收入也将随之增长。我认为用户增长将是今年下半年最大的收入驱动力。
Cathy Peng
On the revenue side, here are some points for you to sort of form some preliminary expectation about the second half. First point is the transition in the second quarter did cause some temporary disruption on the user acquisition front, which has led to a decrease in the number of new users, particularly in the month of April and May. That is going to have some negative impact on revenues. But as user number starts picking up in the second half, revenue is going to grow as well. I do think that user growth is going to be the biggest revenue driver in the second half of the year.
Wang Li
[外语]
Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
第二点是,在我们梳理用户端问题的同时,在产品端我们发现,在过去相当长的一段时间里,为了满足付费用户数量和季度收入目标的一些短期指标,探探采取了一些非常短视的收入驱动措施,这些措施在提升付费转化率方面是积极的,但可能损害用户体验和约会生态系统的健康性。例如,我们获取的男性用户远多于女性用户。付费墙的设计也比我们本应做的更为激进。因此,计划是随着我们进入下半年,我们将移除一些极度短视的措施,以照顾用户体验和约会生态系统。这将对付费转化产生一定的负面影响。但从长远来看,我们认为这绝对是正确的做法。
Cathy Peng
The second point is that while we combed through the problems that we had on the user front, on the product front, what we found out was that during the past quite long period of time, in order to meet some of the short-term targets in the number of paying users as well as the quarterly revenue targets, Tantan has made some very short-term oriented revenue efforts that were positive in driving up the paying conversion ratio, but could cause harm on the user experience and the healthiness of the dating ecosystem. For example, we acquired way more male users than female users. And the paywalls were also designed more aggressively than we probably should have. So, the plan is that as we head into the second half of the year, we are going to remove some of the extremely short-term oriented efforts in order to take care of user experience and the dating ecosystem. That is going to have some negative impact on the paying conversion. But long-term wise, we think this is definitely the right thing to do.
Wang Li
[外语]
Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
另一个与形成收入预期相关的要点是我们对探探直播的看法。我认为探探直播最终将只是一种补充性体验,其日活跃用户渗透率相对较低。这与陌陌的直播形成对比,后者是相当主流的使用场景,具有较高的日活跃用户渗透率。渗透率的差异是探探直播的一个不同之处。探探直播的另一个独特之处在于,探探用户的平均付费能力实际上相当高,而且分布更加均匀,这与陌陌的情况不同,在陌陌平台上,个体付费金额在顶端和底端之间存在巨大差距。因此,探探直播能够保持相当扁平的结构,同时维持非常高的每付费用户平均收入水平。所以,我的观点是,探探直播最终将成为应用内一个非常盈利的小型使用场景。我们的策略是保持其规模小、结构扁平,不采取以每付费用户平均收入为导向的收入驱动措施。同时,我们将大力倾向于核心约会体验,并在产品设计上进一步弱化直播的重要性。
Cathy Peng
The other point that is relevant in forming the revenue expectation is our view about Tantan’s live streaming. The way I think about Tantan’s live streaming is that, ultimately, it’s going to be only a supplementary experience that has a relatively lower DAU penetration. This is in comparison with Momo’s live streaming, which is fairly mainstream sort of use case with a high level of DAU penetration. That’s the difference in penetration ratio is one thing different about Tantan’s live streaming. The other uniqueness about Tantan’s live streaming is that the average paying capabilities of Tantan’s users is actually pretty high and it’s much more evenly distributed as opposed to Momo situation, where there is a wide disparity between the top and the bottom in terms of how much each individual is paying on the platform. So, Tantan’s live streaming is able to maintain a pretty flattish structure and at the same time a very high level of ARPPU. So, my view is that, ultimately, Tantan’s live streaming is going to be a very profitable small use case within the application. And our strategy is to keep it small, keep it flattish by not putting in very ARPPU oriented revenue efforts. And at the same time, we are going to be heavily leaning towards the core dating experience and further deemphasize live streaming in terms of product design.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
总体而言,如果把这些不同的部分放在一起看,我们相信随着进入下半年,探探的收入将会增长,这主要受用户增长的驱动。但由于我提到的一些因素,我们将在探探的货币化深度方面退后几步。当我们达到产品体验的满意水平,并且用户进入稳定快速增长的轨道后,我们将重新启动一直在进行的货币化项目,包括我们一直在测试的增值服务功能。总体而言,我们对探探创造收入并最终实现大量盈利的能力充满信心。我认为投资者在这方面真的不需要有任何疑虑。但在接下来的几个季度,我们将完全专注于协调体验,并在用户增长方面做正确的事情。任何其他事情,包括货币化、追求利润,都将服从于这个主要目标。这样的策略将对下半年的营收和利润产生一些负面影响。因此,我们必须放弃,我认为我们需要暂时放弃之前设定的在今年下半年达到盈亏平衡点的目标。但我相信,为了长期利益,这在当前时间点绝对是正确的做法。
Cathy Peng
Overall, if you put all these different pieces together, we believe that as we move into the second half, the revenue on Tantan is going to grow, primarily driven by user growth. But because of some of the factors that I mentioned, we are going to take a few steps back in terms of how deep we monetize Tantan. After we get to a satisfactory level in terms of product experience and get users on to a stable and rapid growth track, we are going to reactivate the monetization projects that we have been running, including the – as part of VAS feature that we have been testing. Overall, we have full confidence in Tantan’s ability to bring in revenues and ultimately make a lot of profit. I don’t think investors really needs to have any doubt on that front. But for the coming few quarters, we are going to be solely and fully focused on the coordinating experience and doing the right thing on the user growth front. Any other stuff, including monetization, the pursuit of profit will be subservient to that main goal. Such strategy will have some negative impact on both the top line and bottom line in the second half. And therefore, we have to forgo, I think we need to temporary forgo our previous target to reach breakeven point in the second half of the year. But I believe for longer term good, this is definitely the right thing to do at this point in time.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
现在请Jonathan来谈谈利润方面的情况。
Cathy Peng
And now here is Jonathan to talk about the bottom line.
Jonathan Zhang
大家好。让我具体说明一下王力刚才介绍的情况。在收入方面,具体来说,由于我们在探探平台上缩减了许多货币化努力,我们仍然目标在下半年实现从第二季度水平的连续收入增长。然而,对于全年而言,我们目前看到的降低后的收入目标很可能比去年全年水平下降高个位数百分点。此外,由于我们打算继续投资营销渠道以更好地支持用户增长,我们预计非GAAP净亏损将连续扩大。因此,今年的总亏损可能达到3.5亿至4.5亿元人民币,这高于我们年初设定的全年净亏损低于1亿元人民币的目标。这就是关于探探的情况。
Jonathan Zhang
Hi everyone. Let me provide some specific color on what Wang Li just briefed. On the revenue side, to be specific, we currently, because we scaled back many monetization efforts on Tantan platform, we still target to achieve the revenue growth sequentially from Q2 level in the second half of the year. However, for the full year, the lowered revenue target, we currently see will be most likely to be down by high-single percentage point from last year’s level for the full year. And also as we intend to continue to invest in the marketing channels to even better support the user growth, we expect the non-GAAP net loss will widen sequentially. So, the total loss for the year could reach to RMB350 million to RMB450 million, which is higher than what we previously communicated less than RMB100 million net loss for the year target we set at the beginning of the year. So, that’s the – for Tantan.
Cathy Peng
第二个问题。
Cathy Peng
Second question.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
关于核心陌陌的收入方面,这是第二个问题,关于核心陌陌的收入方面,我在前面的部分实际上已经分享了很多。也许我试着总结一下。核心业务在过去几个月的收入表现实际上超出了我们年初的预期,这让我们完全有信心说,核心业务仍然是一个非常强大且富有生产力的现金牛业务。
Cathy Peng
On the revenue side of the core Momo, this is the second question, on the revenue side of the core Momo, I have actually shared a lot in the previous section. Maybe I will just try to sum up a little bit. The revenue performance – the revenue performance on the core during the past few months has actually exceeded our expectation at the beginning of the year, which has given us full confidence to say that the core is still a very strong and productive cash cow business.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
如果从不同角度审视直播业务,无论是内容供应系统的健康状况、内容生态系统,还是供给侧或需求侧的情况,从所有这些不同方面来看,都呈现出稳定的复苏趋势。此外,我们还全面完成了必要的调整,以通过机构和主播建立令人满意且有效的激励计划。因此,支付比率也将保持在稳定水平。
Cathy Peng
If you look at the live streaming business from different aspects, whether it’s the health of the content supply system, the content ecosystem, the situation on the supply end or demand side, it’s on a stable recovery trend from all those different aspects. In addition, we have also fully completed the adjustments that we needed in order to have a satisfactory and effective incentive program through the agency and broadcasters. So, payout ratio is going to stay at a stable level as well.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
在增值服务方面,团队在产品端持续创新的能力正在将增值服务的进一步收入增长空间推得越来越高。正如大家所见,核心增值服务的同比增长已从去年的30%左右加速至今年上半年的40%左右。这也超出了我们之前的预期。但实际上,我认为我们不需要如此激进地追求增值服务的增长率。因此在下半年,我希望团队或许可以稍微控制一下增长速度,并将部分重点转移到产品本身。这里的目标是为增值服务业务的未来增长建立更长的跑道。
Cathy Peng
On the VAS side, the team’s ability to continue to innovate on the product side is pushing the headroom for further revenue growth for VAS higher and higher. As you guys can see, the VAS on the core has accelerated from 30% something YoY growth last year to 40% something YoY growth during the first half of this year. That has also exceeded our earlier expectations. But actually, I do not think we need to pursue the rate of growth that aggressively on VAS. So in the second half, I am hoping that the team can maybe control the pace of growth a little bit and shift part of the focus on to the product – product itself. And the goal here is to build a longer runway for the future growth of VAS business.
Wang Li
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Wang Li
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Cathy Peng
再次强调,如果将这些不同的部分放在一起看,核心业务很可能将在下半年实现同比正增长。我希望在第四季度,我们能够达到两位数的同比增长。现在看来这是一个相当容易实现的目标。考虑到时间关系,我认为问答环节到此结束。主持人,我们准备结束会议。感谢大家参加我们的电话会议。我们下个季度再见。
Cathy Peng
Again, if you put all these different pieces together, it looks like that it’s very possible that the core will turn YoY positive. The core revenue will turn YoY positive in the second half of the year. I am hoping that in the fourth quarter, we could reach double-digit YoY growth. And now it looks like a pretty easy target to reach. In the interest of time, I think this is going to be the end of the Q&A session. Operator, we are ready to close. Thank you for joining our conference call. We will see you next quarter.
Operator
谢谢。今天的电话会议到此结束。感谢各位的参与。您现在可以断开连接。
Operator
Thank you. This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.