Operator
大家好,欢迎参加奇景光电2024年第二季度财报电话会议。目前所有参会者均处于只听模式。稍后我们将进行问答环节,届时将提供相关说明。提醒一下,本次电话会议正在录音。现在请将会议交给奇景光电投资者关系/公共关系总监Eric Li先生。Eric,请开始。
Operator
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Himax Technologies Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. And later we will conduct a Q&A session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Eric Li Chief IR/PR Officer at Himax. Eric, please proceed.
Eric Li
欢迎各位参加奇景光电[音频失真]。我是奇景光电投资者关系/公共关系总监Eric Li。今天与我一同出席的有奇景光电总裁兼首席执行官Jordan Wu,以及首席财务官Jessica Pan。在公司准备好的评论之后,我们预留了问答环节的时间。如果您尚未收到今日业绩发布稿的副本,请发送电子邮件至HIMX@mzgroup.us或hx_ir@himax.com.tw,或通过财经门户网站访问新闻稿,或从奇景光电网站www.himax.com.tw下载。在开始正式发言前,我想提醒大家,本次电话会议中的某些陈述,包括关于预期未来财务业绩和行业增长的陈述,均为前瞻性陈述,涉及诸多风险和不确定性,可能导致实际事件或结果与本次电话会议中描述的情况存在重大差异。风险因素清单可在公司向美国证券交易委员会提交的截至2023年12月31日年度的20-F表格中题为"风险因素"的部分找到,该表格可能已修订。除公司2023年全年财务数据(已于2024年4月2日提交给美国证券交易委员会的20-F表格中提供)外,本次电话会议中包含的财务信息均为未经审计的合并数据,并按照国际财务报告准则编制。此类财务信息由内部生成,未经过与我们的年度合并财务报表相同的审查和审核程序,包括内部审计程序和独立审计师的外部审计,可能与同期经审计的合并财务信息存在重大差异。公司无义务因新信息、未来事件或其他原因而公开更新或修订任何前瞻性陈述。在今天的电话会议上,我将首先回顾奇景光电2024年第二季度的合并财务表现,然后展望第三季度。随后Jordan将介绍我们业务的最新状况,之后我们将回答问题。您可以通过网络直播或电话在线提交问题。我们将基于国际财务报告准则回顾财务数据。我们很高兴地宣布,尽管面临普遍的经济逆风,第二季度营收超出指引,毛利率和利润符合2024年5月9日发布的指引范围。优于预期的财务业绩主要源于我们大多数产品线订单动能的恢复。第二季度营收为2.396亿美元,环比增长15.5%,超出我们8%至13%的增长指引范围。毛利率为32%,符合31.5%至33.5%的指引范围,较上一季度的29.3%和去年同期的21.7%有所提升。环比增长主要受成本改善和有利的产品组合推动,同时汽车IC和时序控制器产品线的销售额增加,这两者的毛利率均高于公司平均水平。毛利率较去年同期大幅改善,主要归因于支付给代工合作伙伴的一次性提前终止费用,该费用消除了最低履行要求的限制以及行业产能严重短缺期间设定的高晶圆成本。因此,我们的新晶圆启动不再受这些限制性条款约束。此外,我们现在可以利用多元化的代工资源实现最佳运营效率和显著改善的成本结构,从而保持产品的竞争力。第二季度每稀释ADS利润为16.9美分,处于0.13美元至0.17美元指引范围的高端。大尺寸显示驱动芯片营收为3900万美元,环比增长24.7%。增长主要由电视和显示器IC客户在几个季度需求疲软后的补库存推动,以及为购物节备货的订单增加。电视和显示器IC销售额均实现两位数的季度环比大幅增长。相比之下,第二季度笔记本IC销售额在上一季度强劲补库存后略有下降。大尺寸面板驱动IC销售额占本季度总营收的16.3%,而上一季度为15.1%,去年同期为19.3%。中小尺寸显示驱动芯片营收达到1.588亿美元,环比增长10.1%,超出我们的指引,原因是汽车、智能手机和平板电脑的TDDI产品销售强于预期。第二季度,汽车驱动芯片销售额(包括传统DDIC和TDDI)环比实现可观的高个位数增长,同比增长超过50%。尽管预期电动汽车需求减弱,但得益于我们在TDDI方面强大的设计中标渠道以及客户自第一季度末以来在DDIC方面的持续补库存动能,第二季度汽车DDIC和TDDI销售额均实现环比增长。我们的汽车业务(包括驱动芯片、时序控制器和OLED销售)在第二季度仍是最大的营收贡献者,占总销售额的47%以上。同时,第二季度平板电脑IC销售额环比略有增长,超出下降的指引,主要受领先客户新机型量产的推动。相反,智能手机驱动芯片销售额在需求疲软的节日淡季如预期般下降。中小尺寸驱动芯片部门占本季度总销售额的66.3%,而上一季度为69.5%,去年同期为63.9%。第二季度非驱动业务营收达到4180万美元,较上一季度增长30.6%,原因是电视、显示器、汽车以及OLED平板电脑的时序控制器产品订单复苏。我们在市场上占据主导地位的汽车局部调光时序控制器,已迅速被全球主要面板制造商、一级供应商和汽车制造商采用,拥有超过一百个设计中标项目,其中仅有少数设计奖项已开始量产。这一势头进一步受到跨大洲项目奖项快速扩张的推动,为我们带来强劲增长,类似于我们在汽车TDDI领域取得的成功。时序控制器业务在第二季度占我们总销售额的10%以上。非驱动产品占总营收的17.4%,而上一季度为15.4%,去年同期为16.8%。第二季度运营费用为4730万美元,较上一季度下降6.7%,较去年同期下降11.1%。环比下降主要受流片费用减少驱动。同比下降主要由于流片费用减少以及往年奖金摊销部分的年度奖金下降。在持续的宏观经济挑战下,我们正在严格执行预算和费用控制以应对这些情况。第二季度运营利润为2930万美元,占销售额的12.2%,而去年同期为销售额的负0.9%,上一季度为销售额的4.8%。环比和同比增长主要由于销售额增加和毛利率改善。第二季度税后利润为2960万美元,或每稀释ADS 16.9美分,而上一季度为1250万美元或每稀释ADS 7.1美分,去年同期为90万美元或每稀释ADS 0.5美分。上半年税后利润为4210万美元,或每稀释ADS 24.1美分,较去年同期的1580万美元或每稀释ADS 9.1美分显著增长。转向资产负债表。截至2024年6月30日,我们拥有2.538亿美元的现金、现金等价物及其他金融资产,而上一季度为2.774亿美元,去年同期为2.195亿美元。现金余额环比下降主要由于客户退还行业产能短缺期间支付的定金,以及通过私募方式对FOCI进行约1600万美元的战略投资。现金余额减少部分被本季度2690万美元的经营现金流入所抵消。与第一季度5670万美元的经营现金流入相比,环比下降主要由于前两个季度销售额减少导致应收账款降低。此外,第二季度应付账款增加是第一季度晶圆订单增加的结果,因为我们预期第二季度出货量更大。第二季度其他重大经营现金流出包括年度所得税支付。展望第三季度,我们预计现金、现金等价物及其他金融资产将下降,主要由于支付5070万美元的年度股东股息。我们还预计在本季度末分配总计约3070万美元的员工奖金,其中包括约1130万美元的今年奖金立即归属部分(实际金额取决于董事会最终决定),以及1940万美元过去三年授予的已归属奖金。截至2024年6月30日,我们的产品库存为2.037亿美元,与上一季度的2.019亿美元相似,表明库存水平管理良好且平衡。截至2024年6月30日的应收账款为2.424亿美元,高于上一季度的2.123亿美元和去年同期的2.39亿美元。季度末的应收账款周转天数为99天,而上一季度为93天,去年同期为90天。第二季度资本支出为460万美元,而上一季度为270万美元,去年同期为290万美元。第二季度的资本支出主要用于IC设计业务的研发相关设备和内部测试仪。截至2024年6月30日,奇景光电拥有1.747亿股流通ADS,与上一季度持平。按完全稀释基础计算,第二季度流通ADS总数为1.751亿股。现在转向我们2024年第三季度的指引。我们预计第三季度营收将环比下降12%至17%,毛利率预计约为30%,具体取决于最终产品组合。第三季度归属于股东的利润预计在每稀释ADS 1.5美分至4.5美分之间。按照历史惯例,我们将在今年9月30日左右授予员工年度奖金,包括限制性股票单位和现金奖励。第三季度每稀释ADS利润指引已考虑预期的2024年度奖金,该奖金(经董事会批准后)目前假设约为1250万美元,其中1130万美元将在授予日立即归属并费用化。提醒一下,年度奖金总额和立即归属部分仅为我们当前的最佳估计,实际金额可能因多种因素(包括我们第四季度的利润以及董事会关于奖金总额及其归属方案的最终决定)而存在重大差异。与往年情况类似,我们预计2024年年度奖金授予将导致第三季度运营费用高于年内其他季度。相比之下,2023年和2022年的年度奖金分别为1040万美元和3960万美元,其中970万美元和1850万美元立即归属。在提供第三季度财务指引时,与员工奖金相关的第三季度费用估计为1420万美元,包括上述今年奖金的立即归属部分1130万美元,以及往年未归属奖金的摊销部分290万美元。为完整起见,过去三个季度中每个季度的员工奖金费用也约为290万美元。我现在将电话转交给Jordan讨论我们的第三季度展望。Jordan,请发言。
Eric Li
Welcome everyone to the Himax [Audio Distortion]. My name is Eric Li, Chief IR/PR Officer at Himax. Joining me today are Jordan Wu, President and Chief Executive Officer, Jessica Pan, Chief Financial Officer. After the Company’s prepared comments, we have allocated time for questions in the Q&A session. If you have not yet received a copy of today’s results release, please email HIMX@mzgroup.us, or hx_ir@himax.com.tw access the press release on financial portals or download a copy from Himax’s website at www.himax.com.tw. Before we begin the formal remarks, I’d like to remind everyone that some of the statements in the conference call, including statements regarding expected future financial results and industry growth, are forward-looking statements that involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from those described in this conference call. A list of risk factors can be found in the Company's SEC filings, Form 20-F for the year ended December 31, 2023 in the section entitled "Risk Factors", as may be amended. Except for the Company’s full year of 2023 financials, which were provided in the Company’s 20-F and filed with the SEC on April 2, 2024, the financial information included in this conference call is unaudited and consolidated and prepared in accordance with IFRS accounting. Such financial information is generated internally and has not been subjected to the same review and scrutiny, including internal auditing procedures and external audits by an independent auditor, to which we subject our annual consolidated financial statements, and may vary materially from the audited consolidated financial information for the same period. The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. On today’s call, I will first review the Himax consolidated financial performance for the second quarter 2024, followed by our third quarter outlook. Jordan will then give an update on the status of our business, after which we will take questions. You can submit your questions online through the webcast or by phone. We will review our financials on an IFRS basis. We are delighted to announce that Q2 revenues surpassed the guidance by gross margin and profits were in line with the guidance range issued on May 9th 2024 despite the prevailing economic headwinds. The better than effective financial results primary stems from resumed order momentum across most of our product lines. Second quarter revenues registered $239.6 million, an increase of 15.5% sequentially, exceeding our guidance range of an 8% to 13% increase. Gross margin came in at 32%, in line with our guidance range of 31.5% to 33.5%, up from 29.3% of the previous quarter and 21.7% same period last year. The sequential growth was driven by cost improvements and a favorable product mix, along with increased sales in the automotive IC and Tcon product lines, both of which have higher than corporate average gross margins. The substantial improvement in gross margin from the same period last year was primarily due to one-time early termination expense paid to foundry partners, which eliminated minimum fulfillment requirement constraints and high wafer costs set during the severe industry capacity shortage. Consequently, our new wafer starts are no longer bound by these restrictive terms. Additionally, we can now leverage diverse foundry sources for optimal operational efficiency and a significantly improved cost structure, thereby maintaining our products’ competitiveness. Q2 profit per diluted ADS was 16.9 cents, at the top end of the guidance range of $0.13 to $0.17. Revenue from large display drivers came in at $39 million, reflecting a sequential increase of 24.7%. The increase was predominantly driven by customer restocking in TV and monitor ICs after several quarters of muted demand, as well as increased orders in preparation for shopping festivals. Both TV and monitor ICs sales posted substantial double-digit increases quarter-over-quarter. In contrast, Q2 notebook IC sales declined slightly following a strong restocking in the previous quarter. Sales of large panel driver ICs accounted for 16.3% of total revenues for the quarter, compared to 15.1% last quarter and 19.3% a year ago. Small and medium-sized display driver revenue reached $158.8 million, marking a sequential increase of 10.1% and surpassing our guidance due to stronger-than-anticipated sales in the TDDI products for automotive, smartphone and tablet. In Q2, automotive driver sales, encompassing both traditional DDIC and TDDI, increased by a decent high-teens sequentially and more than 50% year-over-year. Despite expectations of weakening electric vehicle demand, both automotive DDIC and TDDI sales experienced sequential growth in Q2, thanks to the our robust design-win pipeline in TDDI and customers’ continuous restocking momentum in DDIC since end of Q1. Our automotive business, comprising drivers, Tcon, and OLED sales, remained the largest revenue contributor in the second quarter, representing over 47% of total sales. Meanwhile, Q2 tablet IC sales slightly increased sequentially, surpassing guidance of a decline, fueled by leading customers' new model ramp-ups. Conversely, smartphone driver sales declined as expected during a subdued festival season characterized by sluggish demand. The small and medium-sized driver IC segment accounted for 66.3% of total sales for the quarter, compared to 69.5% in the previous quarter and 63.9% a year ago. Second quarter revenues from its non-driver business reached $41.8 million, up 30.6% from the previous quarter, due to a resurgence in orders for our Tcon products for TV, monitor, automotive, as well as OLED tablet. Our automotive local dimming Tcon, where we dominate the market, has been swiftly adopted by major panel makers, Tier 1 suppliers, and car manufacturers worldwide, boasting well over one hundred design-win projects with only a small number of design awards having commenced mass production. This momentum is further fueled by the rapid expansion of project awards across continents, positioning us for strong growth, mirroring the success we has achieved in automotive TDDI. Tcon business represented over 10% of our total sales in the second quarter. Non-driver products accounted for 17.4% of total revenues, as compared to 15.4% in the previous quarter and 16.8% a year ago. Second quarter operating expenses were $47.3 million, a decrease of 6.7% from the previous quarter and a decline of 11.1% from a year ago. The sequential decrease was primarily driven by decreases in tape-out expenses. The year-over-year decrease was primarily due to reduced tape-out expenses and a decline in the annual bonuses for the amortized tranches of the previous years’ bonuses. Amid ongoing macroeconomic challenges, we are strictly enforcing budget and expense controls to manage these conditions. Second quarter operating income was $29.3 million or 12.2% of sales, compared to minus 0.9% of sales for the same period last year and 4.8% of sales last quarter. Both the sequential and year-over-year increases were primarily due to higher sales and an improved gross margin. Second-quarter after-tax profit was $29.6 million, or 16.9 cents per diluted ADS, compared to $12.5 million, or 7.1 cents per diluted ADS last quarter, and $0.9 million, or 0.5 cents in the same period last year. The after-tax profit for the first half was $42.1 million, or 24.1 cents per diluted ADS, a significant increase from $15.8 million, or 9.1 cents for the same period last year. Turning to the balance sheet. We had $253.8 million of cash, cash equivalents and other financial assets at the end of June 2024, compared to $277.4 million a quarter ago and $219.5 million at the same time last year. The sequential decrease in cash balance was primarily due to customer refunds for their deposits made during the industry-wide capacity shortage, along with a strategic investment of approximately $16 million in FOCI through private placement. The cash balance reduction was partially offset by an operating cash inflow of $26.9 million during the quarter. Compared to the operating cash inflow of $56.7 million in Q1, the sequential decrease was mainly attributable to reduced sales over the preceding two quarters, leading to lower receivables. Additionally, the increase in accounts payable in Q2 was a result of higher Q1 wafer orders, as we anticipated larger shipment volumes in Q2. Other significant operating cash outflows in Q2 included annual income tax payments. Looking ahead to Q3, we anticipate a decline in cash, cash equivalents, and other financial assets, primarily due to a payment of $50.7 million for annual dividends to shareholders. We also expect to distribute a total of approximately $30.7 million for employee bonus awards at the end of this quarter, which includes around $11.3 million for the immediately vested portion of this year’s awards, with the actual amount subject to the final Board decision, and $19.4 million for vested awards granted over the past three years. Our product inventories as of June 30, 2024 were $203.7 million, similar to $201.9 million last quarter, indicating a well-managed and balanced inventory level. Accounts receivable at the end of June 2024 was $242.4 million, up from $212.3 million last quarter and $239 million a year ago. DSO was 99 days at the quarter end, as compared to 93 days last quarter and 90 days a year ago. Second quarter capital expenditures were $4.6 million, versus $2.7 million last quarter and $2.9 million a year ago. The second quarter CapEx was mainly for R&D related equipment and in-house tester for the our IC design business. As of June 30, 2024, Himax had 174.7 million ADS outstanding, unchanged from last quarter. On a fully diluted basis, the total number of ADS outstanding for the second quarter was 175.1 million. Now turning to our third quarter 2024 guidance. We expect third quarter revenue to decrease 12% to 17% sequentially, gross margin is expected to be around 30%, depending on final product mix. The third quarter profit attributable to shareholders is estimated to be in the range of 1.5 cents to 4.5 cents per diluted ADS. As we’ve done historically, we will grant employees annual bonus, including RSUs and cash awards, on or around September 30 this year. The third quarter guidance for profit per diluted ADS has taken into account the expected 2024 annual bonus, which, subject to Board approval, is now assumed to be around $12.5 million, out of which $11.3 million will be vested and expensed immediately on the grant date. As a reminder, the total annual bonus amount and the immediately vested portion are our current best estimates only and the actual amounts could vary materially depending on, among other things, our Q4 profit and the final Board decision for the total bonus amount and its vesting scheme. As is the case for previous years, we expect the annual bonus grant in 2024 to lead to higher third quarter operating expenses, compared to the other quarters of the year. In comparison, the annual bonus for 2023 and 2022 were $10.4 million and $39.6 million respectively, of which $9.7 million and $18.5 million vested immediately. In providing our Q3 financial guidance, the Q3 expense related to employee bonus is estimated to be $14.2 million, comprised of $11.3 million, the immediately vested portion of this year’s bonus as stated above and $2.9 million, the amortized portion of the previous years’ unvested bonuses. For the sake of completeness, employee bonus expense in each of the last three quarters was also around $2.9 million. I would now turn the call over to Jordan to discuss our Q3 outlook. Jordan, the floor is yours.
Jordan Wu
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Jordan Wu
Thank you, Eric. Given the prevailing macroeconomic uncertainty, end customers remain conservative causing panel makers to take a cautious stance and strictly control production to maintain low inventory levels. This is adversely impacting IC demand, leading to our conservative third quarter forecast. During the second quarter in the automotive market, car makers initially anticipated a sales boost due to promotional activities and government subsidies especially in China. Consequently, we saw a major uptick in the second quarter IC sales along with the aggressive discount campaigns of car makers. However, these intense campaigns did not generate the anticipated sales growth and may have even triggered consumers to hesitate in purchasing new cars, leading to disappointing car sales in China for the second quarter and resulting in excessive inventories throughout the supply chain. As a result, our panel customers have begun to scale back their IC procurement in Q3 to manage inventory levels. In comparison, the automotive makers in Europe and the U.S. have remained relatively stable since last year, without experiencing the dramatic fluctuations seen in China. As the leader of the automotive display ICs, we serve a diverse range of brands worldwide, with sales evenly distributed across all major markets. However, since China is the world’s largest automotive market, commanding over 30% of the global sales, fluctuations in China do have a substantial impact on our business. Moving forward, we will navigate the current challenging business environment through close collaborations with panel makers and Tier 1 suppliers, meticulously managing our wafer starts and closely monitoring customer demands. The automotive IC business is Himax’s largest revenue contributor, accounting for over 47% of our total revenues in Q2, significantly higher than our peers. Despite the recent challenges, we remain optimistic about our automotive IC business and are committed to the long-term innovation and development of our automotive products. The automotive display market remains on solid footing with a positive growth trajectory driven by versatile innovations and technology advancements. Advanced and fancier displays are increasingly becoming a major selling point for car makers, driving the automotive display market towards a megatrend of expanding quantities, sizes, and sophistication. As the leading player in the automotive IC market, Himax is well-positioned to be the key beneficiary of the trend. We command a 40% global market share in traditional automotive DDIC and hold an even larger share in both the automotive TDDI and local dimming Tcon markets. In addition to offering the most comprehensive range of automotive IC products for LCD panels, we are actively expanding into the automotive OLED panel market, forming strategic partnerships with major TV panel makers in Korea, China and Japan to develop comprehensive solutions encompassing DDIC, Tcon, and touch controller ICs. This proactive approach positions us to navigate industry shifts and capitalize on the anticipated wide-spread adoption of OLED displays in the high-end vehicles, further solidifying our market leadership. During the quarter, we announced two substantial strategic investments. First, in an effort to strengthen the long-term partnership with FOCI, we as a strategic investor, acquired a 5.3% equity stake through private placement. The partnership integrates Himax’s Wafer Level Optics, WLO expertise and FOCI's optical fiber know-how to create innovative, world-leading Linear-drive Pluggable Optics or LPO and Co-Packaged Optics or CPO solutions for advanced Multi-Chip Modules required for the fast-growing cloud AI and high-speed computing markets. This collaboration not only highlights the application versatility of the WLO technology and Himax’s market leadership but also underscores the significant potential of our WLO in advancing LPO/CPO technology, which is vital for the advancements of cloud AI and high-speed computing. Separately, we invested in the U.S.-based Obsidian Sensors, whose revolutionary high-resolution thermal imaging sensors meet the growing demand of thermal imaging across various industries, including automotive, security, surveillance, drones, and military. This investment broadens our portfolio of imaging sensors, which, when meshed with our ultralow power WiseEye AI, enable enhanced sensor fusion possibilities for endpoint AI applications. The Obsidian investment positions us at the forefront of machine vision AI applications, delivering high effectiveness, particularly in harsh environments and in completely dark scenarios. As we look ahead, our focus remains on enhancing profitability, strengthening operational resilience, and improving adaptability to the evolving market. We continues to optimize the our cost structure and reinforce our supplier diversification strategies for foundries as well as back-end packaging and testing. At the same time, we remain committed to stringent expense control, set to further reduce operating expenses compared to last year. For reference, we achieved a 4% year-over-year reduction in operating expenses in 2023. With that, I would now begin with an update on the large panel driver IC business. In Q3 we anticipate a double-digit sequential revenue decrease for large display driver ICs, primarily due to subdued monitor and TV IC sales, set to decline double-digit and single digit respectively, following substantial order replenishment in preparation for shopping festivals in the previous quarter. Procurements from our leading panel customers have become more conservative due to sluggish market conditions driven by worse-than-expected shopping festival sales. However, notebook IC sales are poised for a decent increase, bolstered by robust order replenishment from the our leading panel customers. Looking ahead in the notebook sector, we have made a strategic effort to position the ourselves to capitalize on the anticipated rising demands for two new market areas, namely LCD displays equipped with touch features and OLED displays, both expected to enjoy decent penetration in premium notebook and the upcoming AI PC markets. Leveraging our industry leadership in TDDI solutions for tablet market, we are working closely with LCD panel customers in the development of in-cell TDDI and new generation Tcon solutions for LCD displays. Concurrently, we have made significant strides in OLED technology for notebook in strategic partnerships with leading panel manufacturers in Korea and China, developing state-of-the-art touch controllers, DDICs and Tcon solutions. Some of the projects above, including in-cell TDDI for mainstream LCD notebooks and Tcon and DDIC for OLED notebooks, are slated for mass production in the second half of this year with leading panel makers. And we are optimistic that the notebook segment will act as a strong growth catalyst for Himax as we moves into 2025. Turning to the small and medium size display driver IC business. We anticipate third quarter revenue is to decline low-teens sequentially. Impacted by our customers’ destocking measures, especially for the Chinese market, as I just mentioned. Automotive revenue in Q3 is expected to decrease high-teens sequentially, following high-teens growth of both DDIC and TDDI in Q2. That being said, through the first 9 months of the year, our automotive driver IC sales are still set to grow mid-teens year-over-year, driven by continued expansion of TDDI adoption across all major end customers. We have secured over 450 TDDI design win projects, with only approximately 30% currently in mass production, indicating significant growth potential going forward. Meanwhile, a trend is emerging where more customers are opting for Himax’s TDDI or LTDI, along with our local dimming Tcon, as their standard development platform for creating new automotive displays of various sizes. This growing adoption of more of our automotive IC offerings also signifies an increase in content value for Himax on a per-panel basis. Himax is widely recognized as the leader in the automotive display IC market, offering the industry's broadest range of products, from traditional DDIC and TDDI to advanced technologies such as local dimming Tcon, LTDI, and OLED. We are committed to continuously enhancing our product portfolio to meet customers’ diverse and evolving needs. Our newly introduced TDDI incorporating local dimming Tcon in one chip exemplifies this commitment to providing customers with more options, as the new solution is ideal for smaller panels that usually require only 1 to 2 ICs for cost considerations, while still equipped with advanced touch and local dimming features. Turning to smartphone IC sales, we expect a decent double-digit increase sequentially, thanks to new product launches by key customers during the quarter. In contrast to the positive outlook in smartphone business, Q3 tablet sales are projected to decline sequentially, as our end customers prolong their replacement cycles in response to challenging economic conditions. Next for an update on our OLED business. For the automotive OLED market we have formed strategic alliances with leading panel manufacturers in Korea, China and Japan. Leveraging our leadership in automotive LCD technology and OLED design expertise, these partnerships further strengthen our presence in the market. We offer a comprehensive suite of OLED solutions for automotive, including DDIC, Tcon, and on-cell touch controllers, ensuring complete coverage of customer requirements. Notably, our meticulously engineered OLED on-cell touch controllers set a new standard, boasting an industry-leading touch signal-to-noise ratio of over 45 dB, greatly enhancing sensitivity. This allows automotive displays to maintain proper functionality under challenging conditions, such as glove-wearing and wet finger operations. We are pleased to share that our OLED on-cell touch controller for automotive has entered mass production this quarter. With additional projects set for mass production soon, we anticipate sales of our OLED on-cell touch controller to further bolster our revenues starting 2025. Beyond the automotive sector, we have made notable advances in the tablet and notebook sectors with top OLED panel manufacturers in Korea and China. Our comprehensive OLED product offerings, encompassing DDIC, Tcon, and touch controllers, have led to several new projects that are on track to enter mass production later in the year. Regarding smartphone OLED, the current market drawdown of our customers has prompted us to revise our production timeline to next year. Despite these challenges, we are actively collaborating with customers in Korea and China and have several verification and partnership projects currently in progress. I would like to now turn to our Non-Driver IC business update. First for an update on our Tcon business, we anticipate a double-digit sequential decline in Q3 Tcon sales as customers pulled forward their inventory purchases during the prior quarter, particularly for monitor application. However, our automotive Tcon business is expected to achieve a decent double-digit growth in Q3, despite the current headwinds in the automotive market, fueled by the shipment of new projects from previously secured design-wins. Since only a small portion of the secured design-wins are currently in mass production, we anticipate significant growth potential for our automotive Tcon business in the coming years. While ongoing weak macroeconomic conditions continue to subdued demand in consumer electronics, some of our newly developed Tcon ICs for OLED tablets and ePaper displays are starting to show promising results. In the Tablet segment, we rae expanding our product lineup and strengthening our position in the high-value-added OLED market, building on our early success in the tablet OLED market. For the rapidly growing ePaper market, we recently made a joint announcement with E Ink, the global leader in ePaper market, to unveil T2000, a state-of-the-art, next-generation color ePaper Tcon. ePaper stands out for its energy efficiency, consuming power only during screen updates. Leveraging Himax’s decades of expertise in image display processing and Tcon design, the T2000 Tcon accelerates screen updates for a better viewing experience while greatly reducing power consumption of the ePaper display. Additionally, the T2000 features an exclusive handwriting processing accelerator, enabling seamless, nearly lag-free handwriting while boosting prompt display responsiveness on ePaper displays without requiring a SoC. It also enables richer and more vibrant colors, enhancing the display’s visual appeal across a broad spectrum of E Ink’s color ePaper platforms. The collaboration opens new possibilities for color ePaper applications in eReaders, ePaper, digital signages, and more. Switching gears to the WiseEye Ultralow Power AI Sensing Solution, a cutting-edge endpoint AI integration featuring industry-leading ultralow power AI processors, always-on CMOS image sensors, and advanced CNN-based AI algorithm. In the fast-changing AI landscape, WiseEye AI technology stands out for its expertise in on-device tinyML microcontroller solutions, characterized by remarkably low power consumption, operating at just single-digit milliwatts, making it possible to add AI functionalities to battery-powered endpoint devices. Our WiseEye technology is creating new opportunities for companies such as DESMAN, China’s leading high-end smart door lock vendor, who introduced the world’s first smart door locks with 24/7 sentry monitoring and real-time event recording with the fancy AI features achieved while still maintaining over six months of battery operation. Our collaboration with DESMAN has sparked increased interests from other door lock vendors across various continents to develop innovative value-added AI features such as parcel recognition, smart anti-pinch protection and biometric access. Notably, some of our customers are currently evaluating our newly introduced WiseEye PalmVein solution which offers effortless, keyless and highly secure biometric access for entry control. WiseEye PalmVein is part of our WiseEye AI module business, integrating Himax WiseEye2 AI processor, AoS CMOS image sensor, and our proprietary palm vein authentication algorithm. We see growing traction and extensive engineering activities for this contactless biometric authentication solution that can authenticate an individual's identity in under 100 milliseconds while consuming just a few milliwatts of power. This represents a significant breakthrough in security technology by enabling biometric authentication in battery-powered devices. With outstanding accuracy and robust liveness check capabilities, palm vein authentication significantly reduces the risk of duplication or spoofing compared to conventional fingerprint or face recognition, making it an ideal choice for indoor security, login authentication, and other access control applications. WiseEye PalmVein upholds robust security standards while offering best-in-class power efficiency, making it the only solution suitable for battery-powered devices. We are collaborating with vendors across various sectors globally, including door lock, access control, notebook and automotive. While just launched at the beginning of the year, WiseEye PalmVein has already been successfully adopted by a U.S. customer for smart security and is set to commence mass production starting the end of this year. We believe WiseEye PalmVein will profoundly impact the security industry and unlock new opportunities for battery-powered devices across various use cases. To broaden WiseEye AI’s market reach and shorten customer development cycles, we also provide seamlessly integrated plug-and-play WiseEye Modules and no-code/low-code AI development platforms, featuring diverse context-aware AI algorithms that customers can reprogram or fine-tune with minimal effort for real-world use cases. Our recent announcement with NVIDIA TAO exemplifies this approach whereby our WiseEye Module customers targeting AI deployment on resource-constrained endpoint devices can easily optimize and quantize our deep learning models with pretrained enterprise-ready AI models and tools offered by NVIDIA. This facilitates rapid democratization of endpoint AI applications using cost-effective, production-ready AI modules for various use cases. Additionally, in response to growing AI-driven demand towards machine-vision across various environments, we recently made a strategic investment in Obsidian Sensors, a San Diego based company renowned for its revolutionary, high-resolution, low-cost thermal sensors, offering unmatched versatility by detecting heat differences even in complete darkness, measuring temperature, and identifying distant objects. This investment expands our image sensor portfolio beyond optical sensors to include thermal sensors, a valuable complement to our product suite which is now widened to cover harsh sensing conditions such as heavy fog or complete darkness. Moreover, this strategic investment promises synergy of the two companies with our WiseEye AI aggregating data from both optical and thermal imaging sensors for a truly holistic view of the environment beyond human vision. In addition, we are engaged in ongoing engineering collaborations that leverage Himax’s IC design resources and know-how. We believe by integrating the strength of Himax and Obsidian, we can seize new opportunities in the expanding sensor and AI markets across industrial, defense, security, consumer electronics, and automotive sectors. As an illustration, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a new rule in April 2024, mandating that Automatic Emergency Braking or AEB including Pedestrian AEB or PAEB, be implemented starting in 2029. This regulation aims to significantly reduce rear-end and pedestrian crashes. Similar rules are increasingly being mandated by regulatory authorities worldwide. The novel ADAS and AEB systems, integrated with Obsidian’s thermal sensors, provides clear vision in low-light and adverse weather conditions such as fog, smoke, rain, and snow. This ensures better driving safety and security, underscoring the trend and significant potential demand for thermal imaging sensors. Last on WLO. During the second quarter, we made a strategic investment in FOCI, a Taiwan-based global leader for silicon photonics connector, through a $16 million private placement, resulting in a 5.3% equity stake. This collaboration highlights the immense potential of our WLO technology for LPO/CPO, which are crucial for further advancing high-speed AI and HPC technologies. Our partnership integrates FOCI's proprietary LPO/CPO connector technology with Himax's nano-scale Wafer Level Optics know-how to create an industry-leading optical transmission solution catered for the most advanced multi-chip modules, which demand enhanced bandwidth, improved data rate, minimized signal loss, reduced latency, and lower energy consumption, all for accommodating future-generation needs of Generative AI and HPC. Currently, in close collaboration with world leading AI semiconductor players and foundry partner, we are working closely with FOCI on LPO/CPO development for products that meet customers’ near-term production goals. LPO/CPO technology is crucial for furthering Generative AI and HPC and will continue to evolve rapidly to meet the explosive demand in these areas. We are committed to advancing the technology with FOCI, ensuring our solutions stay at the cutting edge and align with the multi-year roadmaps of our AI chip and foundry partners/customers. We believe this will generate new, long-lasting revenue streams for Himax. Wait for further updates as they become available. As FOCI is a company listed on the Taipei Exchange, the stock price and resulting “fair value” reflected on our books change each day. These fluctuations have been, and will continue to be recognized by way of changes in owners’ equity as a balance sheet item, not affecting our profit and loss. As an illustration, based on the close of FOCI’s stock price as of the end of June 2024, we made a “gain” of $9.6 million on our $16 million FOCI investment. However, the said “gain” was not recorded as an investment profit in ourQ2 financial statements and instead was booked as an increase in owners’ equity. Likewise, upon disposal, the resulting investment gain or loss will also be recognized as a change of equity, through retained earnings, thus not affecting our profit and loss at the time of the disposal either. The accounting method the we chose reflects our long-term commitment to the FOCI investment. With over a decade of experience in WLO, Himax has developed diverse designs across a broad spectrum, including 3D sensing, AR/VR devices, biomedical inspection, and optical communication, just to name a few. These technologies have been widely adopted by some of the world's most prominent tech companies, with cumulative shipments reaching more than 600 million units. We anticipate WLO playing an even more decisive role in the next-generation optical technology landscape, thanks to its versatile, high-precision, lightweight and small form factor characteristics that are not feasible with alternative technologies. In addition to the progress made in LPO/CPO, we are seeing an increase in engineering projects with globally recognized leaders who are leveraging our WLO expertise for their upcoming AR/VR devices, underscoring the widespread recognition of our technology. For non-driver IC businesses, we expect revenue to decline high-teens sequentially in the third quarter. And that concludes my report for this quarter. Thank you for your interest in Himax. We appreciate you joining today’s call and are now ready to take questions.
Operator
非常感谢,Jordan。[操作员说明] 第一个提问的是野村证券的Donnie Teng。请开始。
Operator
Thanks very much, Jordan. [Operator Instructions] The first one to ask questions Donnie Teng, Nomura. Go ahead please.
Donnie Teng
谢谢Jordan回答我的问题。我的第一个问题是关于汽车业务的。我认为我们在4月份已经开始看到一些积极迹象,我记得6月份我们相当乐观,甚至进入7月份,但指引看起来有点令人失望,您刚才提到客户正在快速调整库存。我想知道您具体是什么时候看到客户方面出现这种疲软的?另外,因为7月中旬有消息称中国政府要求电动汽车公司检查其在零部件和IC采购方面的本土化率。所以想知道是否存在这方面的问题,我们是否可能受到中国电动汽车制造商的影响,或者情况并非如此?谢谢。
Donnie Teng
Thank you, Jordan for taking my question. My first question is regarding to the automotive business, so, I think we have started to see some positive signs back in April and I remember we were pretty positive back in June and even entering into July, the guidance looks like to be a little bit disappointed and you just mentioned about customers adjusting the inventories quickly. Just wondering when exactly you are seeing the kind of weakness from the customers and also because in the mid of July there has been the news in China that Chinese government asking EV companies to check their localization rate in terms of the component and IC procurement. So wondering if there's any issue there whether we will be, likely hired by the Chinese EV makers or it's not the case? Thank you.
Jordan Wu
谢谢,Donnie。你说得对,我们更关注上个季度的情况,当时我们谈到了OLED价格问题。我认为背后的原因我已经在准备好的发言中详细解释过了,即中国市场的波动性指标导致了我们观点的差异。事实证明,我们的客户对下半年的展望并不乐观,他们在进入第二季度时显然被迫持有过多的IC库存。现在他们正在进行去库存过程,我们在准备好的发言中也提到,与相比,美国和欧洲市场相对稳定。 现在来看第三季度前景以及进一步展望第四季度,第二季度的OLED消费和第三季度的去库存过程解释了我们的战略定位和展望。根本问题是未来将如何发展,我认为从长期来看,比如明年,我们仍然对前景保持相当乐观的态度,这一点我可能会在几分钟后详细说明。 更重要的是,第四季度初的情况如何?说实话,我们内部预测是基于全球各地客户(包括我们的一级和二级客户)集体预测的结果。截至今天,第四季度的定位仍然相当积极,与第三季度相比实际上有不错的两位数增长。然而,考虑到最近(我指的是上周)全球金融市场的动荡可能会影响消费者在主要大额支出(如新车购买)方面的信心,我们现在正在调低对第四季度的预期。 我们存在不确定性,而且由于时间很短——全球金融市场的重大动荡实际上只发生在上周,我们没有时间从客户那里获得反馈,我怀疑我们的客户也没有时间了解市场影响。所以我们采取谨慎态度,但事实上,截至今天,基于我们的预测订单簿,我们对第四季度的展望仍然相当积极。 当市场情绪转变时,我可能会说只是在本季度初非常近期才开始。但我们看到客户预测出现稳步但轻微的回落,每周都有轻微但稳定的下调,这当然是另一个非常积极的信号。 关于你对中国本土化的担忧,我们看到——我们已经宣布并设定了进一步为中国汽车行业本土化IC供应链的目标。但就我们而言,在我们的IC业务(即汽车显示IC)中,我不会说这不是威胁,因为任何竞争都是威胁。但我认为我们的领先优势现在如此显著,以至于在可预见的未来我看不到中国竞争的影响。 与消费电子产品相比,众所周知,汽车IC更难替代,需要通过更长的生态系统,并满足各种高要求,如AEC-Q100等标准。因此,中国竞争对手在我们的第三季度展望或未来第四季度展望中确实不扮演任何角色。事实上,如果要说的话,我们相信明年我们的市场份额,特别是对于那些新技术如PD/PI、Tcon等,实际上将在明年开始看到进一步增长。 我认为,如果要说的话,我们相当有信心我们在汽车显示IC市场的份额将从今年的水平进一步提高,我们没有理由相信明年的汽车市场会继续非常疲软。我的意思是,我认为现在为我们制定明年的战略还为时过早。但没有迹象表明人们的汽车支出必然会减少,尽管经济正在经历一些波动,但我认为各国政府和当局可能会采取措施鼓励消费并推动GDP增长,而汽车消费很可能是政府希望立即推动的主要项目。 所以,再次强调,我并不是提供一个明确的展望,我只是想说我们没有理由相信明年对汽车市场来说会是糟糕的一年。我希望这回答了你的问题。
Jordan Wu
Thank you, Donnie. You are right in that we are more focused on the last quarter where we had spoke that then the price in OLED and I think the reason behind is I already explained the in detail in my prepared remarks, i.e., the fluctuation in Chinese market is the metrics are causing the difference in our view. And as it turns out our customers won’t be optimistic for the second half look enter into Q2 and they were apparently forced to too many too much IC inventory. And now they are going through the destocking process and also we also mentioned in our prepared remarks that the US and European markets are relatively stable compared with China. Now if you look at the Q3 prospect and also if we look further into Q4, so the OLED consumer in Q2 and the destocking in Q3 kind of explains our strategy position in our outlook. Now, the root question is how it is going to go going forward and I think certainly, for longer term, like next year, we remain still pretty positive about the outlook, which I will probably cover in a few minutes. Now more importantly, what is remains early Q4 and I'll tell you the truth our internal forecasts which were the results of collective forecasts coming from various customers globally including our parameters in Q1 and Tier 1s. Q4 as of today, the position remains pretty positive with actually a decent double-digit growth compared to Q3. However, we actually toning down our Q4 - prospects right now given the very recent I'm talking about last week also the global turmoil in financial markets, which might impact the consumer confidence in their major big ticket spending such as new costs. So, we are uncertain and we are given the short period of time because the major financial turmoil across the global financial market really occurred only last week. So there is no time for us to get feedback from our customers and I suspect there is no time for our customers to get with the impact rises from the market. So we are like taking a with a free attitude, but in effect as of today, our outlook for Q4 are based on our forecast book is still pretty positive. And when the sentiment turns, I will say probably beginning of this quarter only very recently. But we see steady kind of a slight pull back of customers for forecast all of week-by-week, slightly but steadily and that is certainly another a very promising sign. Now, on your concern of China localization where we have seen – we have made announcements and set targets to further localize their IC supply for China’s automotive sectors. But as far as we are concerned, in our IC which is our automotive IC, which is display ICs. We - I wouldn't say that would not be a threat because any competition is a threat. But I think our leading edge is now so significant that I can see any impact of Chinese competition in terms or in the foreseeable future and compared to consumer electronics, as we are very aware of automotive ICs are much harder to replace and to go through a much lengthier ecosystem and are made along the various requirement high expenses of 50 and other requirements. So Chinese organizations certainly does not play any role in our focus of this outlook for Q3 or going forward into Q4, i.e. in fact next year if anything we believe our market share especially for those new technologies such as PD/PI, promote any Tcons all actually starting in the next year. We are likely to see some ramping – further ramping. I think if anything we believe quite committed our market share on automotive or display ICs will further rise from this year’s levels and there is no reason for us to believe next year’s automotive market will continue to be very bearish. I mean, I think it’s too early for us to form a very strategy for next year. But there is no utilization of signs that people’s cost – spending on cars will necessarily decrease given the fact that the economy is going through some shuttles but I think governments authorities and defense of different countries are likely to take measures to encourage consumption and put their GDPs And car – head us to be a major item in the government wants to push that immediately. So I think, again, I am not providing a solid outlook for I just want to say there's no reason for us to believe next year will be a bad year for automotive market. I hope that answers your question.
Donnie Teng
好的,谢谢Jordan。我的第二个问题是关于CPO。您能否详细说明一下CPO产品的时间线?我们何时才能真正开始看到更多的销量贡献?您对在中长期内扩大这项业务的信心如何?谢谢。
Donnie Teng
Great. Thank you, Jordan. And my second question is regarding to CPO. So could you maybe elaborate more on what sort of timeline for the CPO products? And when should we really start to see some more volume contributions. And how confident you are it’s like to ramp up this business in the mid to long term? Thank you.
Jordan Wu
关于时间表,我可能无法向合作伙伴和客户提供非常具体的日期或时间安排,但我可以告诉你们我们目前正在进行的工作。这个设计是针对大规模生产而设计的,它绝对不是RP概念或研发项目,实际上我们已经进入了工艺阶段——我的意思是,我们几年前就已经看到了这个方向。我们现在正处于工艺阶段,正在向大规模生产推进。我可以告诉你们的是,事实上,我们预计在今年年底前会看到一些微小但非常早期的成果,但这只是最低限度的进展。如果一切按计划进行,明年将会有稳定的产能提升。中长期来看,我对信心水平非常有信心。我们都知道,由于生成式AI的发展,对更高正功率的需求非常迫切,对吧?我们都非常清楚这方面存在的问题。为了进一步提高带宽、处理能力、存在性和速度,但同时也面临着各种问题,包括功耗、散热等等,对吧?我想说的是,CTO是一个相对低成本且相对容易的解决方案——我不是说它容易触发或容易解决所有这些问题,而且在成本方面也是如此。因为,现在如果你分析多传感器HPC芯片或GPU芯片,它们都有非常高的正功率。但它们目前实际上是我们在外部看到的传输问题。芯片的传输,芯片可以在没有电源的情况下处理数据,或者需要高带宽、超高带宽,比你能感受到的带宽更宽,预计在未来几年内带宽将呈指数级增长。现在有了优势,预计将会得到处理。然而,目前真正的瓶颈是它们的传输能力,它们的传输带宽受到限制,因为它们现在依赖金属线进行传输,我们都知道这不是什么秘密——你需要用光纤来替代金属线,这正是我们试图实现的目标,对吧?现在我们正在努力帮助开发。所以,如果你能立即用光纤替代金属线,你就能大幅提升带宽,同时也能显著降低功耗,热问题也会大大减少。你还能提高数据准确性等等。因此,我认为生态系统中的每个人都迫切希望尽快实现这一目标。而且悄悄地——正如我提到的,这是一个相对便宜且容易的解决方案。所以,我看不出有任何理由不全面采用这种方案来覆盖尽可能多的芯片。我现在只讨论那些需要非常高带宽的芯片,对吧,那些需要非常高带宽的芯片。我们的目标,我们的角色是在今天的基础上继续帮助扩展传输带宽,对吧?我们与合作伙伴、客户一起制定了路线图,将在未来几年内大幅扩展传输带宽——我指的是多倍增长。其中一些项目已经处于实验阶段,最早的实验阶段或更成熟的技术已经进入实验阶段。虽然我说得比较保守,但第三代产品将大大扩展这些芯片的传输带宽,预计在相当短的时间内就会有进一步的解决方案可用,我们的传输带宽将实现多倍提升。所以,我认为这对我们WLO来说是一个非常令人兴奋的机会。我的意思是,当我们很久以前意识到我们的连接可以用于解决这个问题时,我们感到惊讶,但随着我们深入研究,我们意识到这实际上是一个非常非常完美的解决方案,可以完美解决当前AI技术进步所面临的数据传输带宽问题。Donnie或其他人还有进一步的问题吗?
Jordan Wu
Preset timeline, I am probably NBA my partner and customers. So I am sorry I cannot give you very specific date or timetable, but I can tell you what we are working on right now the design is targeted for mass production. It is not it is certainly not a RP concept, or an R&D project it’s not actually well processed stage, I mean certainly we see that before – years before. But we are in process stage and we are now pushed towards mass production and then that what I can tell you is in fact, we expect to see some small but very early result hopefully by the end of this year but that’s minimal. But next year, if everything goes as planned, there will be steady ramping. And the confidence level mid to long term, I would say is very confident. I think we all know about this hunger for more positive power because of generative AI right? And we are we all very aware of the issues there. The changes to further increase your bandwidth, your processing power, the presence and speed and but there are all kind of issues including our power consumption, heat dissipation and all that right? And I would say, CTO is a relatively low cost and relatively easy, I am not saying it’s easy by triggered and easy to fix to all this issues and also cost wise, as well. Because, right now, if you analyze the multi-sensor HPC ICs or GPU ICs they are very big positive power. But they are automatic right now is actually the transmission we see outside. The transmission of the ICs, the IC can process without power, or data, high bandwidth, super high bandwidth, very broad than you feel it, the bandwidth is expanding or it is expected to expand exponentially over the next few years. Now with advantage and it is going to – that they expect it is going to be processed. However, the real bottleneck right now is their transmission to capability, their transmission bandwidth which is limited because now they are relying on metal wire to do the transmission and we all know is there is no secret to reveal products you turn into replace your megawatt with fiber optics and that’s effective what we are trying to achieve, right? Now we are trying to help to develop. And so if you can essentially you replace your metal wire with fiber optics right away you push your bandwidth by a huge lep and thereby also a major material to reduce your power consumption and just the thermal wealth will become much less. And you increase your data accuracy, et cetera, et cetera. So, I would say, everybody in the ecosystem is very keen to making sure that this happens ASAP. And quietly – because as I’ve mentioned, right it's a relatively cheap and easy fix to their solutions. So I don’t see any reason why distribution already adopted across the board to cover as many of the IC as possible. Now I've only talking about ICs with demand very high bandwidth, right, which demand very high bandwidth. And our goal, our role is to building on the foundation of today to continue to help expand the transmission bandwidth right? And we have a roadmap together with partners, our customers to really pretty dramatically expanding transmission bandwidth very substantially, I'm talking about my – by multiple times over the next few years. And some of these projects are already in experimental stage in the earliest experimental stage or more mature tech it’s been on experimental stage. Although I am talking fairly is that the third generation of production will greatly expand the transmission bandwidth of those ICs already with further solutions expected to be available. In rather, short time span with multiple times improvement in our transmission bandwidth. So I think this is a really exciting opportunity for us for WLO. I mean, it’s a surprise when we realized long time ago that our connections be utilized to take all this for this issue but as we dig further and further, we realize this is actually a very, very perfect solution and a very perfect fix for the data transmission bandwidth issue that is now faced by this AI technology advancement. Any further questions from Donnie or others?
Donnie Teng
不,谢谢你,Jordan。非常有帮助。
Donnie Teng
No, thank you, Jordan. Very helpful.
Jordan Wu
谢谢。
Jordan Wu
Thank you.
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Jordan Wu
最后一点说明,我们的首席投资者关系/公共关系官Eric Li将继续维持这些月度活动,并继续参加投资者会议。相关细节将在确定后公布。谢谢大家,祝大家有美好的一天。
Jordan Wu
As a final note, Eric Li, our Chief IR/PR Officer will maintain this monthly activities and continue to attend investor conferences. We will announce the details as they come about. Thank you and have a nice day.